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    Re: Sea Run Browns; Preferred habitat


    Alan,

    I will be interested to know more about this for many reasons.

    The first would be historical.
    When were Brown trout introduced into these rivers that are known to have a run of Sea Trout.
    And from what source did they originally come.
    I may be able to get these facts from the USFW, but may be not if this happened when it was the US Fish Commission.

    Alan, there is a difference between the true genetic strain of Sea trout and Brown trout that venture into brackish and salt water, which all Brown trout are capable of, so are river Bows if they have time to adapt.

    Which is also interesting as there are times that Sea trout run into rivers that run out of lake systems. They can become trapped in that system due to low water that does not let them return to the oceans, and they will survive.
    Which is the same scenario that happened for Steelhead, which entered lake systems and remained there to become strains of Rainbow trout.

    Much research has been done in the UK regarding Sea Trout.
    Some are of the view that all Brown trout were at one time anadromous, as all rivers or lakes either have or would at some time a source that flows into the ocean.

    As l already said here there were times that the route of water became cut off for one reason or the other which trapped those fish. Which may well have been the parr and smolts. They adapted to the new environment and became over time a genetic resident strain.
    We also see in some of the natural lake systems in the UK and Ireland as many as 3 very distinct strains that have different habits. Some strains are pelagic while others chose to live at depth and become plankton, crustacean and mollusk feeders at depth, or other benthic organisms.

    Other theories are that many of the rives that sea trout run are freestone and in some cases contain little food base, all be it there will be resident Browns trout of a strain that do not grow very large.
    The theory being that in search of food many of these fish travelled to the oceans and found food. They then only returned to the rivers and lakes to spawn.

    I know for a fact that this can be the case as l used to fish a river at its estuary to the ocean for shad and we would also catch Browns that were colored same as the river strain.
    Sea Trout are mainly a silver fish with black markings. They show no other color as we see with stream fish.

    Either way Browns trout have fascinated me since my childhood days, and particularly since they were introduced into North America, as they were also by the English to South America and the Falkland Islands.

    Let me know what you find out Alan.

    Davy.
























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    Re: Sea Run Browns; Preferred habitat

    Today I was at at a small river. Took a few fish Euro-nymphing. In this small river I found that the strike detection was more tactile than visual. The lower reaches of this stream is known for sea run trout although I have never caught one. Interestingly, on this day, I took quite a specie mix. Brook, rainbow and browns,
    bluegill, perch and river dace.

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    Magnet: Nice picture of the dam. I used to fish that river alot back in my worm dunking days. It brings back fond memories. Alot of little pockets for all the trout to hide in.

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    Magnet: now you're talking! Maybe I'll meet you there sometime and show you some more secret spots. This is an excellent stream to hone your small stream Euro tactics. There are also more wild brookies there than some people know. BLACKGHOST1 and I spent many an enjoyable day on that stream.

    Did you go downstream to witness the beaver havoc?

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    Re: Sea Run Browns; Preferred habitat

    I used to fish below a dam just like that one.

    I remember going in there with my fly rod and getting frustrated because I couldnt catch fish. Eventually I would dig up a worm and slip it on my caddis or stonefly, just to restore my confidence in selecting fishy water.

    I now realize that those fish had probably taken my fly fifty times and I never knew it.

    (I no longer resort to worms when my confidence is shaken)
    If the line ain't tight, ya ain't doin it right

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    Make no mistake they will take a worm even better !!
    In the past anglers in the UK would use creepers, which is a stonefly nymph, it would outfish a fly, so would the natural mayfly when dapped, a practice still used on the great Irish lakes, in the hands of a expert again it will beat a fly fisher hands down.
    one of the few times l got a lesson against another angler was when l fly fished and my boat partner fished the natural green drake.
    I swear to this day that fish l had rise to my fly, also saw Jims natural and made a choice in a fraction, and it was not my fly.
    Same deal with a maggot, deadly.

    Davy

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    Its a great little river and only 15 minutes from my place. The Farmington TMA is about 1 hour plus. Thanks Alain for opening my eyes to that which is close by. I don't think I will catch a beauty like the one blackghost caught this week but I have really honed my small river euro skills there.


 

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