I never heard of those before you mentioned them. Another company that you might want to look into is Vision. They make the same types of niche rods. If you are looking into a wet fly rod that is in the same price range as the Elite rods, the Hardy Marksman Drifter is the rod to look at. I have thought about ordering some of those rods from the EU websites, but knowing me I will break it and shipping the rods back and forth for repair will cost as much as a new rod. I am sure those rods are top notch but they might not be a good alternative to what we have here due to that lack of American distributors. Just some food for though.