Great looking fly Mark. I am unfamiliar with this type of fly. Can I assume that it would be used as the top dropper on a wet fly rig?
Hook: Mustad C53S or similar
Thread: Lt. Cahill Uni-Thread
Rib: Dk Brown Gossamer
Abdomen: Underfur taken from the cheek area of a Hare's Mask dyed Gold, touch dubbed to form.
Hackle: Whiting Brahma dyed golden straw wrapped through the thorax
Thorax: Fur taken from the upper cheek area of the Hare's Mask dyed gold-guard hair left in dubbed Leisenring Style
Mark
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Great looking fly Mark. I am unfamiliar with this type of fly. Can I assume that it would be used as the top dropper on a wet fly rig?
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Yes, it could, however it could be used on the bottom as well because it also looks like a nymph. That's the thing I like about wingless wet flies. They can be used in a number of different ways. In fact I'd normally fish this fly by itself, letting it sink to the depth I want, and when it reaches the fish or supposed lie of the fish, I'd activate it bringing it to the top by raising the rod. The fly is past my position at that point, so the current plus rod movement upward, gives the impression of a hatching fly. Basically, it's the Leisenring lift. You can gently wiggle the rod tip to give the fly more action. If you have never used that technique, try it. It is deadly many times.
If you want to get the fly deeper, you can add weight to the leader, but I suggest a sinking line. The weight on the leader, in my opinion, impedes the natural action of the fly.
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soft hackel ,what sinking tip would you use ? i havent tried it ive rad about it ,can it be fished upstream with the sinking line ? like you would normaly fish a nymph ?Or what would be the best time to switch to the sinking tip? do you keep it on a speart spool ?
fish on ,I caught a 100 pound sturgon on 20lb test!
If you are going to fish it upstream or high sticking, dead drift near the bottom, a sink tip line would work fine. It can also be fished floating mid column, or just below the surface on a floating line. There are lots of ways to use this fly.
Early wet fly fishing was executed on silk lines, which I'm sure sank when soaked well. Of course they were treated for dry fly fishing. The leader, too, usually of gut, sank as well because they were soaked prior to fishing.
We don't have any modern equivalent, unless you want to try a modern silk line, which they have. Or you use a sinking, sink tip, or floating lines of today for various applications.
I really don't like adding weight to the fly or the leader with these flies, although many fishermen do. It's whatever works for you.
I carry two lines with me. Both are on separate spools. One full sinking, one floating. That way I can change when I want or need to.
Lots of ways to "skin one cat " I guess.
Mark
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Good explanations there Mark.
The 3 most important lines for me for wet fly fishing are
DT dry lines in 3/4/5 wts
Intermediates in 2/4/5 wts
Short section dry/intermediate ST, which l build myself. 3/4/6 ft tips. 5wts.
These 3 lines will more or less cover any option, there may be a few very rare situations when l use a faster full sink line.
Often as not when there are bad wind conditions, the line weight allows way better control of the flies due to the hang, its not so much to sink the flies at great depth, all be it l can work them well below the surface.
All of which will allow for flies to be fished at any angle to stream flow.
Stillwater fishing is a very different deal as here many more lines are needed.
Davy.
these flys interest me highly ,there is more then one out there .I have been fishing the dechutes ,which is a difficult river to fish in some areas .there are long deep runs ,which i know hold trout ,I know someone who uses a cased caddis pattern to dredge the big boys up .im just interested in trying something different at some point to see if it works .I really dont like fishing the deep stuff but the river has alot of differnt water types on it .I want to be able to fish them all ,three rods on the boat though could be a pain .The biggest problem is being able to change lines .I dont like the poly leaders they are just strange and like fishing with jello on the end of the line .I know davy likes the intermediate sink lines ,for wind control which can be a factor on the Dechutes . So i think next time i do a long trout trip ill bring a full sink tip and see what happens .
fish on ,I caught a 100 pound sturgon on 20lb test!
Mark, l agree l do not like the adapter systems either, you do not have the same direct control due to the hinge effect.
There are some systems that my friend Roman Moser produced, and some of those are ok at a push, primarily Roman developed those for nymph indicator fishing, but they do have of course other optons of use.
Are you talking about very deep fast water here Mark.
Davy
Great fly and explanation Mark, thanks for sharing.
JI
... I fish not because I regard fishing as being terribly important, but because I suspect that so many of the other concerns of men are equally unimportant, and not nearly so much fun.
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Thats a great looking fly but the hook looks a lot like the TMC 200R which I have had terrible success with.
I hook plenty of fish on flies tied on that hook but my landing ratio is terrible. I hav talked with many others regarding that specific hook and have heard many identical reports. I think it has to do with the hook length/gap ratio and the fact that the shank is curved. A pattern with any bulk toward the rear of the hook really exacerbates the problem.
What is your experience with that Mustad hook? Have you fished that pattern a lot?
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