Detection And Setting With Cast Of Flies

[Upinjewett]

Lately I'v been trying out multiple fly rigs with nymphing and wet flies. Davey's "cast of flies" has produced a phenomal number of hits, but rhe hook up rate at least for me has been somewhat to be desired. Most hits are occuring on the end of an across and down
swing, a straight downstream drift at any time, and a surprising rate on the retrieve by
swinging the flies laterally as I bring them in. I'm wondering how to tweak my game with regards to detection and set I'm using the prescribed palm twist retrieve on the dangle
with bitten lip anticipation, always in touch with fore finger and thumb. In terms of the set
I'm doing the ol'e One Tousand One and a 1/2 when using a standard pinch set or no count and a slip set. Even tried a strike set just for kicks, but I thinlk that's really for larger
fish and streamers. My guess is it's timing and practice as usual, but since it's off the top
there are adjustments to be made. Any Tips out there ?

[Upinjewett]

Whoops - Mistake there - I meant strip set not strike set

[frankm205]

Gary,

Good to see you here!! You wil llearn much more here than on the other site.Talk soon

Frank

[northcountryman]

UIJ;

How's it goin?? Good to see another C.flies guy lookin to expand their horizons a bit!! Serious ques. now: Can you explain to me what you mean by strike set, slip set, etc.? Are you talking about strike detection?

thanks,

Northcountryman

[Upinjewett]

NC Man , Whoa - There's no such thing as a strike set - As I tried to follow up and correct myself. I was speaking of a strip set or strip strike and that was done in humor. A slip set or slip strike as I undestand it is when you allow line to go out through the guides as you
raise the rod to strike. It's all about reaction timing and effect on the tippet as I see it. I'm asking here not declaring. I presume we are in the company here of those who can clarify and edify.

[northcountryman]

UIJ,

Gotcha, I figured it was something like that. Can you tell me this: why would you allow the line to slip through a bit after detection of strike?
When i'm nymphing, i'm always so worried about missing strikes that I strike(i.e., hook set movement) whenever there's the slightest change in my dry fly indicator, most being just current anomalies or nymph movements below of course. I'm jus thinking:Wouldn't you miss the fish if you did that ?
Thanks,
northcountryman

[Upinjewett]

NC Man - Just 3 or 4 inches of line go out as you raise the rod; it's about timing. The idea is to give it just another second or so as the fish turns, so you don't jerk it out of it's mouth initially. I would think that it would cushion the bottom section of the leader where the droppers are as well, I only do it on a swing across and down when the line is tight to the reel save the little I keep out for this set. A guy I know who fishes single soft hackles suggestted it. It's something I've been experimenting with. I'm not even sure it's the best way to go to tweak missed hits in this context. I'm new to multiple wet flies. It's time now to run out and see what Mr Trout is doing - Later

[frankm205]

Hey Gary how is the Esopus these days?

[northcountryman]

UIJ;

Thanks for the reply and good luck!!

[Esopus Guy]

Buunch of REALLY small ones Frank. NC and I hit 30-40.........Biggest was 12in maybe. Fun though! NC was amazed to say the least.

HA!! Nice to see some more familliars on here. Welcome to a REAL forum Gary. Good people here.