Wading Systems.

I'm looking for some new waders and I'm not really sure which route to go? do you guys have any favorite systems? Feedback would be much appreciated.

Well you can do it 2 ways. Buy Gore Tex and be done with it or don't and buy a new pair every 6-9months like I do. You typically get what you pay for................ Go Simms.

Simms, can't beat their customer service.

Spend the money.....Simms.

I've tried many......Simms is the best that I have used. It will be hard to try any others when my Simms wear out.

Ha ha well i guess its unanimous, I've been looking at the Simms Freestone zippered stocking foots, they look really nice, awesome features and it's in my price range :)

Oh wow i want to upgrade my gear just priced it, Simms freestone zippered stocking foots, Simms Guide Boots, Simms Guide Vest, Simms Freestone Jacket, new pair of Simms ExStream socks. $909 :o that's like 5 paychecks.... heeere we gooo.

I've been buying new Orvis Endura waders every year, because I wear the neoprene out first, even with good Chota boots. If I go through a pair a year, they're cheap, so it doesn't seem matter much. I put around 50 days on the streams, maybe more...I lose track.

I certainly know Simm's reputation, but I've been looking at Dan Bailey's and wondered what everyone thinks of them, good or bad?

I also thought I might do some deficit spending and splurge on the Simm's....

I know a couple of guides out here in Colorado who could have a pro-deal on most any and the go back to bailey's very few problems..a ton use simms but some of the more hardcore guys like the baileys. i think aaron likes the hardy waders pretty well too so I bet the greys are good as well. i have been using simms with the occaision foray over to orvis and sure they are ok but im not spending 400+ when the bailey guaranty is just as good (which it is).

I'm on my second pair of Baily's in 2 years. The last were light weights. We'll see how long the Yellowstones last.

Thats the problem with waders...all mfg's even simms have a poor pair every now and then and you only hear about the bad news...I guess my rule of thumb is that waders are about $100 per year...I've had 3 pr simms two are lightweigts and the go 2-3 years each..the guides that i had were $300 back then and last about 4 ...just reporting what others have said.

Get simms there products and warranty's cant be beat. I never had a bad experience with them.

Thanks for all of the input guys, I'll definitely look into the Dan Bailey's, my local fly shop sells them but i have never really gave them a look. And I agree, I think that waders are one of the biggest pain in the butts too buy, but I guess you got to do what you got to do.

I will say that the Baily's are cut the best for layering. You can put on plenty of socks ect. as they seem to be a bit fuller cut. The reason I bought another pair. They also have excellent costomer service. As with every brand I have tried they all blow out in the same place...........the heel or toe. Maybe I should just fish where i park to limit the mileage on them...lol

I'll be the outlier... I use Cabelas. They have "long" sizes, are relatively economical, and have a great warranty. I've used other brands in the past and they didn't seem to last any longer.

ha ha putting miles on small streams up in the mountains is what causes blow outs a lot I think, not that I ever do that ::)

Well I usually don't do the Fan Boy thing, but Simms all the way. Now I have tighter budget then most so I have to figure out ways to purchase the best gear I can. One of my local fly shops has a trade in program for rods and reels. I have fly fished since before 4piece rods were as available as they are now, so I had a good number of 2 piece rods. Plus I've been lucky at finding 2 piece rods that I could buy cheap and trade or sell for more then I paid the same with reels as well. Trading in or selling these rods and reels is how I have afforded equipment with little out of pocket that I could not have afforded otherwise.

To top it off I have also discovered Alan & Co Fly (Owners name is Justicn) Fishing through another forum and his reels are such high quality for such excellent prices that sold all my Abels, and other Major brand reels and replanced them Alan & Co reels at a third the cost. He sells directly to angler. He sells fly lines that I use as well and he has come out with some amazing Rods he has just releasing fist to those who preordered, mine should be here next week. If I told you what these rods have been compared to by the few who bought one from a prelease batch several months ago you wouldn't beleive me. So I'm pretty excited! Justin just told this week that the first week in February he will release a 10' Nymphing rod too out of the same amazing blank material as the rod I'll be getting next week.

I said all this to say that where there is a will there is a way to be able to afford high quality fly fishing gear.

FlyBum,

I checked out the Alan & Co company, looks very promising and I'm exciting too try out some of there gear, Keep me updated on there new products and I would be more than happy to test them out, who knows good be a new big name in the making. Thanks a lot for sharing!

good waders might be expensive (and they are), but they are a whole lot cheaper than a boat. waders are a person's boat if they're mostly fishing streams. and there is no need to worry about fuel, license, storage, and lugging it back and forth. high grade simms are my vote.

I've worn Patagonia's for about the past 5 or 6 years. Had nothing but good luck. Warranty is awesome. Had a pair of wading boots that the felt started coming unglued after 4 years...sent them back...they sent me brand new boots ( their latest style). Just sent back my waders last year after beating on them for 4 years (they had a leak where the seam from the neoprene to the breathable wader material connects) Sent me a brand new pair of the latest style. I also have the original SST Jacket. Six years old and going strong. Gore-Tex isn't the only name in breathable waterproof fabrics. Many companies come up with their own because they can patent it and don't have to pay for the Gore-Tex name. I've never owned simms, other than a Freestone wading jacket that I got years ago for a TU donation, but have never worn. They seem to have very nice stuff, but seems to be a little pricey. What are the G4 Guidefoots...$700? Just because they have a waterproof zipper in the front? Thats a lot of coin for waders. I would like to check out the Filson 5 layer stockingfoots. I have a couple of Filson jackets and a few pieces of luggage and the stuff is practically bulletproof. Things may have changed since they were bought out recently and started making a lot of their items overseas (Like everyone else pretty much). They look pretty sturdy though. I agree you definitely get what you pay for. Buy cheap waders and by the time they are broken in, they'll probably be leaking and have no warranty, so you have to just throw them away and buy another pair. Best advice is to do some research, check out the warranty, and buy the best quality you can afford. Its usually worth it in the long run IMHO.
Tight lines
Spence

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Great post and you hit it on the head. Get the best that you can. It will last longer and you will be happier.

I just picked up my first Allen reel in 6wt. Looks like a very well made product and I couldn't beat the price too. It came in three different colors. Justin posts his specials on his Facebook page.

Thanks Aaron. My brother learned a lesson by buying a cheap pair of breathables a couple of years back. On about our 4th or 5th trip of the season, they started leaking. By the next trip, he was ringing his socks out at the end of the day. My opinion is that when you're paying a little more, you are getting a better product, but you are also paying for a better warranty most of the time. That peace of mind seems to go along way.
Tight lines,
Spence

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