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Davy,
I can't wait to go to MT and fish the lakes with you next year! We will whack the crap out of the fish!
You are right! I was fortunate to fish with Simon for a number of days this summer. It was an enlightening experience to say the least. To say that you have helped me become a better angler would say the least. I am extremely grateful!
We have to find out what's going on for Christmas. I found cheap tickets to Fayetteville!
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I can't wait to go to MT and fish the lakes with you next year! We will whack the crap out of the fish!
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Can I go? Pretty please. I'll make sandwiches and row.
Dejon, you have to carry the rods and tackle bags also !! not Aarons, mine.
I still got one of Aarons here, he could not afford the $150 bucks to pay the ariline to get it home, dam thing you cold sleep in it.
Davy,
All right. I'll do sandwiches, rod/tackle bags, and row as long as we can stop by a Subway, hire a Caddy, and bring a Motor!
Getting my stuff out to that last Utah Regional was a real task. Somehow I got all my gear into a huge suitcase and army duffel including a doz rods, 2 doz reels,2 waders, 2 boots, tons of clothes, and almost my whole primary tying desk w/ lites etc. What did I use? 1 pair Jeans, 1 4wt WFF 10ft, and tied PTs and HEs!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coulda fit that in a backpack:)
If only there was one magic rod ,I guess when you get to fishing heaven they give you one there . I hear you on the travel bags ,waders alone take up half the bag ! Thanks for all the info Davy ,you are truely a sportsmen . I cant wait to hit the river Sunday ! Im using some of this info for fishing spet flys .It applies ::)
Good luck Nutman, l got to guide the next 3 days and it is cold here, low 20s. As a rule we normally do not see it this low at this time, l shall have my heater in the boat that's for sure.
Dejon, l am at a loss to know why you would haul 1 doz rods, two doz reels, darn , you beat Aaron by a mile.
Pretty much when l was competitive fishing on a regular basis two rods were my armoury, a 10ft 4/5 wt and a 9ft 6wt, more or less that would deal with both rivers and stillwaters for the best part, lines would be dry, 5 sinking lines and a sink tip.
I guess for me the most important thing was the flies.
Davy.
hell I have tomany flies with me most of the time ,but it seems like if I leave the trout flies home the trout are biting ,if I leave the salmon flys home they are biting got to bring the flys . That is cold for the south ! It isnt even that cold out here ,atleast not yet .
I have to catch a fish this time out I have to show up this west coast fishermen Im going with ,his head has gotten to large for his own good :o Ill catch one if I see one that is for sure .
Im still insearch of a ten or for that matter a five pound trout on the fly ,so I got work to do !
Davy, a few reasons. 1) I'm a notorious over packer. 2) I have a special skill for breaking rods. 3) I have a palatable fear of finding myself in a situation and not having something. and most importantly 4) I'm still learning how to par down my comp traveling kit. However, I don't think I'll ever make it down to 2 rods. Even if I could commit to my usual 10ft4wt for river and 9.5ft6wt for lakes I'd need at least one backup each if not 2 deep:) I could probably strip off a few lines(reels), but I haven't decided what needs to go. Probably the underutilized type2,4, midgetip, and clearwater and aqualux. The type 1,3,5,7 are my main arsenal. WFFs for all weights ofcourse.
I've heard the midgetip can be deadly, but I haven't tapped into it's use. I've also heard the 2 clear lake lines can be good, but I don't like the way they handle and since I'm usually tossing 20+ foot flouro leaders I'm not sure they make all that much of a difference.
Flies are overrated:) I just lasso em' these days. I've actually moved to a slim palate storage system so i can take a fly shop's worth of flies with me in the space of a small stack of magazines. Just gotta tie em! I recently moved a huge amount of flies tied on hooks I came to distrust - only for comp. mind you. Now I'm starring at all these empty or partially filled palates thinking about the massive tying task ahead and considering my move a bit impetuous. ugh
Davy:
Is it 200 years of experience or is it more about tradtion. I feel it's a little bit about both. A good angler always is schooled at one time or another but yet developes a style/rythm that works for him on a consistan basis. The differance is that the good angler will look at new things and decide to employ them or not into his routine that constanly catches fish. Now when I hear about years of knowledge I sometimes have to think not a good thing. Meaning let's take Halford, Dry flies only to the extreme. He had that spot locked. Along comes Skues and breaks the tradition and is banned off waters. Theodore Gordon looks at Halfords flies and knows they will not work in American waters of the Catskills. So he developes his own style of dry fly and the rest is history. Then I have to think of Anglers like Liesenring, Hidy, Nemes, Bergman, Dette, Darbee, Cross, Wulff and Hughes. Completely different schools of thought but all these people were very successfull catching large numbers of Trout consistently. Yes they had their learning curves and yes were skunked like any other angler. But when you talk about these people fishing wet flies you didn't hear to much about very long rods. It was about techique and approach. Now every one has their style and way and I am not saying that a style that one is taught that catches fish constantly is wrong. But I do look and believe that there are other ways. The gentlemen I listed when you read upon them show that. I have been fishing wet flies since I was 20 years old. I am now 46, I am always learning and always willing to look at different ways and employ them into my fishing If I feel they are affective and sound. I have also employed your leader building technique from your video in to my wet fly fishing instead of building a three wet fly rig which was a little longer to due the old school way. So the question comes back into play, is it 200 years of experience or mainly tradition.
For sure, l would not disagree with you. I have thought often how fly fishing has moved on, and it is largely due to how others have in some way been responsible for new ways, be it fly innovation or techniques in fishing.
In many cases as you would know those persons were also influential in so far as they were able to at that time have there ways published.
Also, as to day companies such as Hardy for one also were instrumental in marketing both tackle and fly patterns that were name associated with those who had become known in the field at that time.
The word tradition is of course interesting in so far as how it is perceived in the fly fishing world.
In my homelands this word is more or less related to a style of fishing which by and large relates to loch style fly fishing when a team of flies were cast and fished in front of a drifting boat. The same term would not be used as such for dry fly and nymph fishing, the Halford or Skues way.
I often wonder how many of the notables of the past would view how fly fishing has moved on, would they find it acceptable to their ways of thought or not. I would say that by and large fly fisherman to day would not think in the same vain that all methods are acceptable.
The only reason l can think for why the long rods did not make their way across the pond is this.
By and large lake and lough fishing was not practised here.
It was so far as l am aware of that fly fishing here was more so related to fishing river systems.
Brown trout were not introduced till 1884 and then only in a few river systems, by and large it would have been Brook trout that were pursued in the east and Cutthroat in the west.
Also at that time bamboo rods were to some extent more in fashion in the 8 to 9ft length.
Not sure we will ever be able to establish the real answer to this one.
Let me know your thoughts here.
Davy