View Full Version : Wading Shoe Soles - THE LAST WORD
alanb_ct
06-07-2009, 10:22 AM
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We have talked about this a lot on this forum, and I think now I have done enough research (and spent enough money!) to summarize. The reviews on this site are of no use to you without careful research and occasional updates.
BOTTOM LINE:
The Vibram Streamtred soles are not general purpose, and cannot provide safe wading all the time.
We all support the clean angling pledge and none of us wants to spread biologics. BUT, none of us wants to fall, break an ankle, or drown. Under pressure from conservation groups, Simms introduced new hard sole wading shoes and is in fact phasing out felt soles all together. This is a noble effort and we are all glad to have Simms on the side of clean angling.
I have noticed several trends since the Vibram was introduced. For one thing, Simms is now doing promotions where they distribute the studs free with any Vibram sole purchase. The studs normally cost $24.95. This is a clue that the soles are lacking in traction. I have also noticed that a big box fly-fishing retailer (the one that starts with a "C") has modified their advertising. In their description of the Rivershed shoes, they are saying "Felt-soled boots are great for rocky or pebbled stream and rivers," while "Vibram rubber soles are great for muddy lakes and rivers." I think the many consumers of "C" have spoken and complained.
The problem is the Vibram soles provide almost zero traction in rocky or pebbled streams, and even with studs, any algae or moss will make wading impossible. Nothing is more frustrating than constantly slipping and repositioning your feet when you fish. I have fished at least 50 times this year, so I have a strong feeling about this.
In terms of traction, nothing beats a thick (7/16in +) felt sole for wading in rocky streams. If the stream rocks are covered with anything green, studded felt is even better. When you wear studs, you must be mindful or certain hard rocks (in CT, they are orange-colored) where the studs will not bite.
Here is the final summary of pros and cons, with the final metric being traction.
Plain felt
PROS: Best for clean pebbled bottoms.
CONS: Terrible on hills and mud. Snow will stick in winter. Wet soles transport biologics.
Studded felt
PROS: Good for clean pebbled bottoms. Excellent for pebbled and rocky bottoms once algae has covered their surfaces. Better than plain felt on hills and in mud.
CONS: Snow will stick in winter. Wet soles transport biologics.
Aquastealth
PROS: Best on dry rocks and rock hopping, like a rock-climbing shoe. Minimizes transport of biologics.
CONS: Of no use for actual wading in water. Terrible on hills and mud. Snow will not stick, but there is no traction on snow and ice.
Studded Aquastealth
PROS: Slightly better for wading. A possible winter shoe if only wading on stream edges. Better if additional studs are screwed on. Minimizes transport of biologics.
CONS: Only marginal on hills and snow and ice.
Vibram StreamTred
PROS: Best for hiking to the stream. Excellent for rock hopping on dry rocks. Minimize transport of biologics. Really good on hills and mud. Excellent winter hiking shoe.
CONS: Minimal traction on pebbled bottoms especially when there is algae. Shoes do not grab onto rocks, but instead your feet slide in the crevices between rocks.
Studded Vibram
PROS: Same as regular Vibram, but enhanced. Slightly better traction for wading. Studs do not extend past regular lugs in sole, so enhancement is only modest. Better winter shoe.
CONS: Minimal traction on pebbled streams.
Korkers Cleated Shoes
PROS: Best winter and steelhead shoe. Big cleats will dig into ice and snow and wedge into rocky crevices while wading. Hard sole, so they minimize biologic transport. Better than a hiking shoe on hills and mud.
CONS: Terrible on dry rocks, you must step carefully.
Here is my proposed solution. You simply have to have multiple pairs of shoes, based on conditions. If you are using felt and not disinfecting them, it is best to buy multiple pairs. Right now, there are many excellent deals available for felt. I just bought a couple new pairs of studded felt shoes for an excellent value. My plan is to reserve one pair exclusively for the Farmington. The second pair will be for the Catskills. When I fish the Housatonic, from now on, I plan to wear my Korkers. My studded Vibram soles will be disinfected and reserved for the winter Farmington.
I hope this review is helpful to you. I just don't want anyone to buy Vibram soles and expect them to be completely general purpose. I also don't want anyone to get hurt based on any prior recommendations from TPO. Some of this is a matter of personal opinion, fitness, ability to balance and so on. Thank you for considering my review.
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dylanmjones23
06-07-2009, 05:20 PM
This is a great review. I have used the Simms Rivershed about 5 times now and have run into the same problems. While they are unequaled as a hiking the bank/mud shoe, they are severely lacking on the pebble/stone river bottom. It feels like you are walking on marbles, slipping and sliding off and over the rocks. I have gone to the two wading shoe style, breaking out the Freestone felts when needed and I'll try and be consistent about cleaning them.
pathfinder
06-07-2009, 08:48 PM
This is a good review Alain. I think there are many people on the fence about which sole to purchase for their particular river. I too do not think that felt alternatives have reached felt replacibility as of yet. The technology is still a work in progress and seems like it might take some time to find a versatile alternative. I agree on having multiple pairs being a benefit also (you have quite a collection by the way) I have a pair of patagonia riverwalker felts that I use for ankle twister runs. I use these when I know that I need serious stability. My other felts are chotas that fit super comfy, but don't offer the support that the patagonias do. I rarely use the simms aqua stealths (there are better one now, but I got these a while back) except for sandy bottoms like the swift or snow trekking. The first time I tried those on a boulder run on the Westfield my back was killing me from trying to remain stable the whole time, not fun. Your analysis is spot on with my views of when and where to use either. I try to use one boot on each of the major rivers I fish, but when I travel its easy enough to take the necessary disinfecting steps. Good topic.
nutman
06-07-2009, 08:53 PM
cant they come up with something to put on or in the boots and the felt to kill the the biologics? it gets in the laces as well and im sure into the boots padding ? Whats next rubber booties?
LopatNympher
06-07-2009, 10:33 PM
Thanks for the work putting this together. I only wish I had read this before I bought my shoes. Just like you say, its like walking on ice when I am in the water but on dry rocks they are great. I had a really hard time moving around in the water at the KLG when I was there a few weeks ago. I can't tell you how many times I have slid on muddy banks as well. The only thing I really like about them is that I can put them on at home and walk the mile or so to get to Lopatcong Creek without worrying about felt bottoms wearing down quickly. I am going to take your advice and get a pair of felts for when I fish water like the gorge. the boots I am talking about are LL Bean's
West Branch Wading Boots with the unstudded Aqua Stealth soles.
SherpaB
06-08-2009, 09:02 AM
Thanks for the review. I have two pair of felts one for the South Platte and one for other rivers. Since I fish the Platte quite a bit I am not disinfecting them regularly although I do. The other pair are my away boots. I keep them cleaned after every outing. I have examined the rubber bottomed boots long and hard and just cant see how they could provide decent traction in a rocky stream environment. I have a buddy who does like them but he is field testing them for a shop and hasnt had to part with the $150-$200 so his opinion may be jaded. BTW all the shops out here in Colorado are heavily discounting felts, I am not too psyched about this because they are basically not carrying felt anymore. Perhaps the problem out here is more troubling. I am also sure that the equiment mfg's will continue to develop the rubber technology so being an early adopter may not be the wisest move.
Magnet
06-08-2009, 10:08 AM
Thanks Alain. As always, your suggestions are very helpful.
However, doesn't it seem sort of futile pinning the hopes of not spreading didimo on felt shoes? I think it is one of those politically correct solutions that isn't really going to solve anything. Nutman touched on this. There are a multitude of possible points of transfer other than felt shoes. I pose this question. Is didimo really all that invasive in the grand scheme of things? Alain, maybe you could expound on this. I remember a post of yours way back where you questioned how prolific it really would be. Also, I was told recently that didimo is native to the northeastern USA. Might it not be something which has always been here but is for whatever reason experiencing an up tick of proliferation? Could it be that the industry is overreacting?
Bob-
Maybe there is some overreaction by the industry but I think in this situation I would rather be an overreaction rather than under. Below is a link to the PA State page that is pretty informative.
http://www.fish.state.pa.us/water/habitat/ans/didymo/faq_didymo.htm
In reference to the post below...an article from the Christian Science Monitor...not the hotbed of science information but I thought it gave some interesting perspective regarding history and locations....I did like the comment about traveling fishermen and the impact on the spread...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0301/p13s01-sten.html?page=1
alanb_ct
06-08-2009, 10:37 AM
Of course I don't want to spread anything, but I read an article that said Didymo has been present in Scandanavian streams for decades with no real ill effects. I can't recall the citation right now, but it is archived in this forum somewhere. I am sure you could easily find many references for both sides of this story, so you should do your own research anyway.
The felt sole conversion is definitely an overreaction and clearly not a panacea. The benefit of the overreaction, however, is that there may be other unknown biologics we don't want to spread. There are so many avenues for the spread of invasive species, the prevention task seems impossible. If you think about it, even a wet wooly bugger fished stream to stream could probably spread something. Realistically, who is going to take the time to disinfect their flies? Their net? Their wading staff? Their hat when it falls in? Their wet socks?
regarding disinfecting...there are schools of thought that if you are able to completely dry the items...for at least 48 hours then it kills off the organism. Others...propose putting your boots...or say flybox in the freezer to kill it off.
Below is a link to a site in New Zealand with more information...They have been ultraaggressive in trying to prevent and minimize any impact from didymo.
Here are some ideas pertaining to felt sole boots..
Absorbent items require longer soaking times to allow thorough saturation. For example, felt-soled waders require:
Hot water: soak for at least 40 minutes in hot water kept above 45 C; OR
Hot water plus detergent: soak for 30 minutes in hot water kept above 45 C containing 5% dishwashing detergent or nappy cleaner; OR
Freezing any item until solid will also kill didymo.
http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/didymo
Silver Creek
06-08-2009, 03:38 PM
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Alan,
Thanks for the review especially felt vs the new Vibram sole.
However, I disagree with your assessment of felt boots which you said were "CONS: Terrible on hills and mud." The felt boots you tested were terrible, but this is due to the design of the felt boots you tested.
My best friend is the former owner of Weinbrenner, the manufacturer of the Gary Borger wading boots. I've been a wading boot tester for them.
Having been a boot tester, I think I know what is important in boot design that makes for a quality wading boot. Unfortunately almost all felt and rubber wading boots today do not have a feature that I think is very important for safety and that is a stacked heel. Why? To save cost!
A stacked heel is a separate heel, that is placed upon the sole of the boot, to create a "notch" in the bottom of the boot between the sole and the heel. Most boots, and I think all the boots in the review photo above have a one piece molded sole and heel.
The heel of a boot forms a ledge that "digs" into the soil when one walks down hill. Try walking down a hill with a flat soled pair of shoes and a shoe with a heel and you will notice how much more stable you are with the heeled shoe because it grabs and stops your foot from sliding down hill. This is especially important for boots with felt because felt is a relatively smooth surface and needs the heel.
For wading the heel is really important especially then standing on any rounded surface such as the top of a rounded rock. The corner of the heel forms an edge that "grabs" onto the surface of a rounded rock and gives you a stable hold on the top of the rock. Look at the photos of the bottom of the boots tested. Is it any wonder that they can't grab while going down hills or on the top of rocks?
Not all studded boots are equal. It is better to have too few studs than too many.
Studs do not cause you to slip on rocks. What causes you to slip is the distribution and projection of the studs. The distribution must be planned so that both studs and felt contact the surface of the rock. Too many studs too close together and you are standing on the studs alone and not on both felt and studs.
The studs should project only a bare minimum from the felt. Early prototype versions of the Borger boots had the studs projecting too far from the felt and was corrected on the production model. Your body weight will compress the felt and the studs then contact the rock and cuts through the algae. As the felt gets worn, more and more of the stud gets exposed. It the boots starts new with exposed studs, this does not allow for wear of the felt.
A stacked heel is doubly important if you are going to have studs so that you have this felt surface on the top of rocks. Too many studs and the corner of the heel may be the only non studded surface on the rocks.
If you have a higher quality boot like this Weinbrenner Borger Boot that has a "stacked" heel made of separate stacked, glued and sewn pieces of felt, the corner of the heel forms an edge that "grabs" onto the surface of a rounded rock and gives you a stable hold on the top of the rock. Imagine this boot on a rounded rock and you will see what I mean. Although the boot is studded, you cannot see them. This is how studs should be mounted.
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The bottom of the Borger boot shows that the area under the ball of the boot has no stud but as you rock your foot forward, the studs begin to grab. Also notice that on the side view of the boot above, you cannot even see the studs because only the tips project from the boot. As you step on the felt, the felt compresses and the tips of the studs contact the rock and river bottom.
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I tested two pairs of boots (studded and unstudded) made in Korea that Weinbrenner was thinking of marketing in the US under the Weinbrenner name. I fell off a rock and dinged my reel because they had a one piece sole with flat heels and a poor stud pattern. I recommended changes to the design but they decided not to market the boots.
The stud pattern is way to tight on the studded pair. The stud pattern must allow both felt and studs to contact the ground/rocks. That way, when you are on a rock, you are not on just the tips of the studs.
What did I do with the boots? Sold 'em on Ebay cheap. Unfortunately, even new current boots are still made like this.
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It's not the felt, it's the design. You can't just put a layer of felt on a one piece sole with a rounded elevated one piece heel and expect it to grab the top of a rounded rock. Note that the felt of the Borger boot is not only glued to the welt but sewn to the welt. A glued wet can pull off, a sewn welt will not.
Quality boots cost more but if they save a fall, they are worth it. I wish they could make them lighter but these boots last forever. I was a tester for the the prototypes of the Propex (ballistic nylon) boots above. I still have them and they are going on 10 years although the need new studs and soles. The boots are solid and have not blown out the sides or the toes.
Not all felt boots are equal and I think it is really important to have a separate stacked heel because there is no tread pattern on felt to provide grip when on slippery surfaces. As a boot tester, I got to keep the boots I tested, but some boots are not worth keeping even if they were free. I can't imagine buying boots that are unsafe just to save the cost of making a separate heel piece.
alanb_ct
06-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Thank you. I agree the stacked heel makes sense. Too bad Simms does not employ this design. I wore Danner boots for years, but am now happy with the Simms fit and comfort.
SlowNDeep
06-08-2009, 09:34 PM
I wore Weinbrenners exclusively for almost ten years. My last two pairs split on the top-outside seam in less than a full season. I had always thought they were the best boots, but have abandoned ship.
Simms Freestone felt soles peel in less than a year; in the worst way too, peeling from the toe back causing me to trip in the stream. >:(
Chota studded citicos....wasting your money on anything else...
seriously. A+ in comfort, durability, price...i like the idea of a material that won't transport invasive species...but I also want confidence that I am not going to go slipping downstream or having the felt peel back. Been wearing the shoes for 200+ days on the water. I have had to replace the studs (panhead screws) a couple of times.
Chota...look into them.
jovalle
06-08-2009, 10:21 PM
While I am an owner of two pairs of ice skates, aka rubber soled wading boots, I can't emphasize enough how awful dydimo is for our rivers. I fished on two rivers in NZ with dydimo and you can't imagine how horrible this stuff is for a river. Think the worst lougie you've ever had in your life, and imagine millions upon millions of them floating in a river so you cant see the bottom, etc. Its incomprehensible. Fish may live in the stuff, but its almost impossible to fish it, esp with a nymph. Evidently the Esopus has the stuff now, I'd guess the Housatonic will have it in a year or two. A small percentage bleach solution will kill it - I also have some dydimo be-gone fluid from my time in NZ, they make you carry it when you hike around fjordland. Every fly-shop should have a rinse station outside...its just crazy. At the end of the day, why risk contamination, even if you dont believe the effects will be that bad. I'd rather slip a bit while wading than see my river disappear under dydimo.
jovalle...you make a good point about shops having the rinsing stations etc...I have not been on systems where didymo is present but I still take the time to thoroughly dry my gear or freeze my boots in an attempt to avoid spreading an invasive...
but folks are finding this stuff can be transmitted via laces...fabric in the boots, waders....so while the rubber soles seem like a step in the right direction they may give folks a false sense of security....
Dry your gear...use a solution if possible...or freeze.
I think science is only starting to get a handle on this stuff.
Troutastic
06-09-2009, 11:43 AM
Well good news, Simms is replacing my G3 Wading boots. I thought about seeing if I could replace the felt with the Vibram soles, but after this review, I think I'll stick with the felt. Too many freestone rivers around here to want/need the vibrams, and I already got a pair of hiking shoes with that and I guess I could just use that.
Food for thought, while my G3's were getting sent back to Simms, I waded with an old pair of North Face shoes. I was very surprised at the traction I had with the worn out rubber soles on them, go figure. ::)
Troutfisher
10-30-2009, 08:26 AM
Interesting feedback from everyone. Since the time the rubber soles were introduced, I've often wondered how good the gripping would be once the tread pattern wore and if replacing worn soles was an option?
alanb_ct
10-31-2009, 08:40 PM
I continue to be fed up with the poor traction performance of the Vibram soles. I have been wearing my studded rubber Korkers most of the time. I also just bought 3 cheap pairs of studded felt shoes while I still can. I plan to label each pair for distinct watersheds only.
The whole Didymo/disinfecting argument is full of half-truths in my opinion. The issue with soles does nothing to prevent the spread of biologics in your flies, fly line, net, staff, reel, rod, hat, glasses, fly box, etc. I don't believe the switch away from felt will have any impact on the spread of Didymo; the real beneft of the trend is to raise general awareness of the problem.
Organizations worried about the spread of Didymo should primarily fund research in to how to stop it once it is in a stream. The spread from stream to stream is inevitable. For example, I just read that zebra mussels now exist in the upper Housatonic River. I bet that thousands of times a season, waterfowl with wet feathers fly from the Hous to the Farmington. How are we going to stop that?
mike734
10-31-2009, 09:00 PM
Alain what are your thoughts on the studded felt inserts on the Korkers. it seems as though you don't want to just switch out the rubber studded inserts for studded felt. I figure there must be a reason for this.
alanb_ct
10-31-2009, 09:24 PM
Mike: I haven't tried those, to be honest. I find it tiring to keep swapping the soles with the screwdriver and all. Also, the soles cost about $30, close to what I paid for a whole new pair. Finally, just swapping the soles is not as good as swapping the whole shoe in terms of biologic transport.
Mantis
11-02-2009, 12:58 AM
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BlackLabel
11-02-2009, 01:47 AM
I have the studded Aquastealth Bean boots and I feel the traction is no problem at all but they do leave a little to be desired in the comfort area. The Simms screw in studs are better than the bean ones. They are pretty much machine screws with pieces of hardened steel on the end of the screws (looks like left over welding slag). The only thing you need to be carefull of is the depth of the simms studs might go through the aquastealth sole and into the inside of the boot.
I've though of trying to make mine own studs with my MIG welder. I wonder how it would work?
Rocco
11-09-2009, 10:32 PM
Hey, you guys. This just struck me like a thunderbolt -"The asymmetrical wading shoe system" (patent pending). Buy two pairs of wading shoes of the same design, say Simms Headwaters, one pair in Vibram and one pair in felt. Wear one felt shoe and one Vibram shoe at the same time - you're ready for any river bottom. When this pair wears out you've still got the second pair. Even better, put studs in the second pair and switch off. The combinations are endless.
Has anybody tried the Chota STL Wader Polypropylene felt soles? How is this poly felt different than regular felt for gripping purposes?
Dr. BlueDun
03-03-2010, 10:24 AM
Hey guys darn good reviews---I think you all have saved me from spending a lot of bucks and then taking a flop on my 79 year old arse. I agree with Alain as I have three pairs of boots, I use one on the Willowemoc, and a separate pair on the West Branch and yet another pair from the Salmon River. For me taking a fall is easy as "senior vertigo" a 6'2" frame makes for easy falls and broken bones (the end of fly fishing). I think I will add a set of corkers to the mix for the Salmon. I would have been very disappointed if I bought Simms w. Caulks, and took a flop after that cash outlay. So once again thanks from this old codger for your well-timed and thoughtful post on this thread. BTW go to this site as another posssible alternative http://www.kahtoola.com/microspikes.php.A+ to you all--"Doc"
SherpaB
03-03-2010, 10:35 PM
One pair of shoes that looks interesting are the new ones by Redington, the Ecogrip. I know for a fact that those soles are currently used by the navy seals for various sea/land situations. OTB makes them and they are even somewhat saying they work well with waders...I have to think they are probably worth a look. No studs but a deeply siped sole just like the old sperry topsiders...(as a sailor they are by far the best traction on a wet deck), combined with the nubby soles they might prove pretty good. You can see them at the redington website or the OTB originals at: https://www.otbboots.com/main.html
Lonewolve
10-23-2011, 07:19 PM
Silver,
Thanks for this post, I am currently in the hunt for a pair of wading boots ,I already own a pair of Weinbrenner/Borger boots they were bought in 1995,and they have been through the gauntlet.It is sad that Weinbrenner has discontinued this boot.IMHO they are the best wading boots ever made , i will get a Korkers studded felt kit and have them resoled in about three years.Lost a stud up on the Salmon River last week.rest of the studs are intact.I wish i could find me a pair in #14 eee.
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